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Review of Nokia 8800 China Edition

The official opposition started not long ago: the end of the June last year witnessed the Finnish colossus Nokia taking out a process against two Japanese companies Shenzhen Telsda Mobile Communication Industry Developing Co. Ltd and Xun Da Zhong Ke Electronic (Shenzhen) Co. Ltd. Nokia accused the companies of counterfeiting the old model Nokia 7260.

Table of contents:

  1. Sales package and its peculiarities. Design
  2. Design
  3. Keypad
  4. Specifications
  5. Interface features
  6. Menu
  7. Multimedia
  8. Performance and computer connectivity
  9. Conclusion
  10. P.S. How to distinguish the fake from the genuine phone

By the way Nokia accused not only these companies, but also mentioned willful participants in a crime, namely two local distributors Beijing Tongwanbao Commerce & Trade Co. Ltd An Wai Avenue No. 2 Branch and Beijing Xin Tongwanbao Commerce & Trade Co. Ltd. In the production in court the Finnish representatives demanded that companies stop producing and selling devices resembling the Nokia 7260, and also repay financial damage equal to $62,500. The trial of prosecuting the Chinese captured the headlines, but Nokia as well as the local media held back the information about the further events

Nokia 8800 China

( The range of Chinese products (fakes), beneath you see the genuine handsets)

In a year we happened to get a phone fishily resembling another Nokia device the flagship model of the Nokias 8000 series handsets the Nokia 8800. Studying the problem, we found, that several Chinese clons of the popular Nokia phones appeared during the year, among them was even the flagship phone of the multimedia series the N 95. The conclusion is obvious: you can prosecute the Chinese manufacturers, pull strings, but they anyway will counterfeit the phone and enter the market earlier than the original model. The Chinese recipe for success consists of two key points: modest price and recognizable design. What is hidden behind the Chinese fakes? Can they really compete with the world-known brand? Lets try to answer these questions while checking up the Nokia 8800 China Edition.

Sales package and its peculiarities. Design

Besides the phone itself the sales package includes: a charger with Chinese ideograms, a charge cable, (the one end of it is plugged into the phone, the other into the charger) and a battery. The cable has some peculiarities: firstly, the end for the phone is not the round Nokias one, but it is a rectangular miniUSB; secondly, the other end connecting with the charger is done in the form of common USB-jack.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Consequently, thanks to the component charger the user has 3(!) different ways of charging the battery.

  • The first way is mobile. When travelling, the most convenient way to charge the battery is to use the charger only. The latter is equipped with special grooves which hold the battery. So you have to take with you in your trip only the charger and an adapter. As the manufacturer didnt care of the potential distribution area (the device is counterfeit, its sales in Russia is banned), or they could didnt think that the European sockets have round contacts, whereas the Chinese ones are flat and rectangular. Anyway, you can easily purchase the adapter in any radiomarket in any town.

  • Nokia 8800 China

  • The second way is computer. When at home, you can charge the battery in the common way, without taking it out from the phone. Herewith, the time of charging will be the same (approx 2 hours).

  • The third way is computer. Do you remember, that the charger cable is, in point of fact, a miniUSB cable? So you can wire the phone write to the worked computer or the laptop with the help of USB. But the time of charging will grow up to 3 hours.

Nokia 8800 China

As to the battery, it was a big disappointment to us 650 mA/h is not enough to the convenient work even with the old models. The time of work supports my words with the active use (about 1 hour of talks, 10 SMS, 10-20 minutes playing games) the battery becomes empty by the evening. In general, the battery is unreliable: the build quality is bad, the labels seem to be rough and ready. Thats way a user should be ready to change the battery shortly. Consequently another problem arises: where can I find the applicable battery? In fact we dont have the service centres of the company and it hardly appears in the nearest future. Moreover, the phone has little in common with the Nokia 8800, as it is just a fake. And of course you cant find repair parts for it, because nobody wants to sell the phone legally, which design resembles the top-brand model of the famous vendor. In fact, to sell it means to play Russian roulette with the cylinder of the gun full of the cartridges.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

There is another remark concerning the service: the sample, we have checked out, could boast the chip in the middle of the low part of the glossy service of the screen after several months in use. Of course we can prescribe it to the plant defect, but it is hardly true, especially if you remember the illegal origin of the phone.

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The glossy cover of the screen is made inaccurately, the left low corner juts out more than the others.


The phone itself is built up carelessly: the majority of the elements joint each other with spaces, askance, the plastic is cheap and in some places it is coarse, the metal casing attracts small scratches very quickly. In general, when you cast a close look at the fake Nokia 8800, you notice it looks very low, whereas from afar you can hardly distinguish it from the original Nokia 8800. The slider has the same opening mechanism as the original upward. The device is equipped with the spring assisted sliding mechanism, it works well.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Above the display locates the speaker covered with the metal insert. Its loudness lives much to be desired: in the quiet places you hear an interlocutor very good, outdoors the loudness is not enough, in the metro you cant speak at all you hear nothing. Beneath the display you see the sign Nokia opalized with all the colours of the rainbow and the support to the finger.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The upper and right edges of the Chinese phone households nothing, on the left edge you see the memory card slot (!) to the microSD cards and the 2.5mm (!) headphone jack. The majority of the low-priced (up to $100)phones feature neither memory slot, nor headphone jack. Both slots are covered with plastic plugs, that are difficult to open. Moreover, the plug to the memory slot has a low quality, as well as the slot itself. But the functionality of the handset is worth appreciating: we say it once again the low-priced model features neither the 2.5mm headphones jack, nor the extension memory card slot. And as the phone doesnt have the memory (there are only 600 Kb, but it is enough only for 3-4 stills), the possibility to use the memory card is almost inevitable! Since the microSD card locates not under the battery, but on the left edge of the device, the hot swap is supported by default.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The low end of the device boasts with the miniUSB slot anda tiny (the diameter is approx one mm) hole of unclear purpose.

Nokia 8800 China

The back cover households the camera lens, a groove of the loud connection dynamic and a latch covering the external antenna hole. The latter can be useful, as the reception quality, unfortunately, proves to be weak. In the city reception is good, but when moving away in the country, the irritating breaks in talks appear. The same problems is when driving fast.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The large part of the back surface is protected with a metal cover of the battery. The cover is fixed with one larch only. Unfotunately, the mechanism isnt well-thought-out: the cover is fixed loosely, and one careless motion is enough to unfasten it.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The cover hides the battery hence you cant get it with the phone folded. To change the battery you have to open it and pick it up with a nail. Beneath the battery you find the SIM-card slot fixed with a small metal slider. But even here there are some problems. Holding mechanism of the card is so ugly, that you are unlikely to put it there right away. We should say, that after two weeks of using the phone with regular changing the SIM-card, we manage to fix it orderly in the slot only after three-four attempts.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The most peculiar feature of the Chinese phone is a label under the battery. It tells us that:

) The handset is made of the Nokia Corporation, the model 8800, type RM-13 and it is even produced in the homeland of the company in Finland!

Nokia 8800 China

) the phone is certificated by the Federal Communication commingle of the USA and Russian Department of communication!

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The keypad of the China Edition doesnt stand out the comparable controls of the other handsets. The letters of the both alphabets are laid on correctly, though we were ready to see the contrary in the fake. The keys also boast the Chinese ideograms, though they dont discomfort you while working with the handset. The columns of the buttons are separated with the plastic inserts reminding metal. The key control element is the five-way joystick of silver colour. It wasnt disappointment to us: it is handy to use it both with the open and folded phone. Each move of the joystick has its dedicated application: Up camera, Down SMS, To the left incoming messages, To the right audio player.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

The keys backlight is in the vein that the modern Nokia handsets: it is blue and even. In general, we have positive impressions from the keypad.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China


Whereas we dont have the official information about the phone (unfortunately, the author of the review doesnt master Chinese), all the specifications have to be determined by practical consideration. So, the China Edition measures 106x45x17mm in size, weight about 120g (with the battery and memory card). The display dimension is 2in (a little more than 5sm), resolution 176x220pixels, 65 000 colours. You can adjust 5 levels of contrast. There is 600KB built-in memory, you can expand it with the help of the microSD card. The device ships with the 1.3mpixels camera; mirror and flash are not provided. The battery capacity is 650mA/h. The phone book can have up to 300 contacts. The phone supports WAP, GPRS, there is HTML-browser. The handset lacks wireless connection modules, but the device is equipped with the 2.5-mm headset jack. The device also supports SMS, MMS and predictive input.

Interface features

You switch on the phone with the long press the reject call button, notably the length is about 5 6 seconds! After that the display shows the branded image of outstretched hands, the image for some reason is repeated twice. Turning off needs less time, but the sign NOKLA that appears during the process - disheartened us. We also found shifting between the main profiles (common/vibration) non-standard to the phones of the Finnish company, it goes with the Siemens or Samsung schemes with long pressing the pound key. But the same button is used to block the keypad as in the genuine Nokia devices: the left soft-button and then *


The menu is displayed in the matrix 3x4 icons and resembles the menu of the Motorola phones of the next to last generation. At least the China Edition has nothing in common with Nokias menu. So lets have a look at each item of the menu.

Nokia 8800 China

This picture acts as a screen saver.

Nokia 8800 China

and this one as a wallpaper.

Phone book

Here you can add new contact in the phone memory (300 numbers) or in the SIM-card (250 numbers), to each of the contact you may assign: name, mobile/ home/work numbers, the name of the company, e-mail, fax, note, date of birth, picture, video, sounds. Each contact from the phone book can relate to one particular group (by default there are Friends, Family, VIP, Business, other). In this item you can copy data from the SIM-card in the phone memory and vice versa, delay contacts, assign extra-numbers. In general, this item is typical to the majority of cellular phones. But it worth mentioning, that there are lots of settings.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China


This item of the menu gives access to the SMS/MMS settings and their editing, to the chat and voice messages. Everything is common.

Nokia 8800 China

Call history

Here the phone collects information not only about outgoing/missed/received calls, but also about talk duration, the number of received/sent SMS-messages. There is also a counter of GPRS data.

Nokia 8800 China


This menu item includes settings of the phone, network, calls, security. You can also restore factory settingsand make use of the equalizer. For the first time we meet in the phone an option to utilize the equalizer to the external speaker. Of course, taking the weakness of the latter into consideration, the equalizer seems to be useless. But the option itself is very interesting. Something similar (called 3D Tones) appears now in the new original Finnish smartphones.

Among the settings of the device Id like to point out date and time autorenewal, Flight Mode support, shutdown and switch on of the phone according to schedule (!).

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

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Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

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Then follows Multimedia, but Id like to comment it hereafter.


There is nothing interesting about this item. It has much to improve in order to have the same functionality as other phones.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Entertainment and games

Entertainment and games may be the most favorite item of the menu in the China Edition and there are several grounds to it: firstly, the phone ships with 4 preinstalled games Copter, Puzzle, Panda and UFO ( some of them are unlikely to be original or picturesque, but at least they make you forget about a couple of working hours); secondly, you can utilize the shell program ( applying of the themes) only from here; thirdly, here also locate stopwatch and graphic editor. All preinstalled themes are plain as day: only the background is changing, it can be light-blue, grey or green.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China


By default there are 5 profiles are available: General, Meeting, Outdoor, Indoor, Headset. To each of them you can assign keypad tones, ringing volume, signal type (vibration only; vibration and ring tone; vibration and then ring tone), replay mode.

Nokia 8800 China


The organizer comprises Calendar, Notes, Alarm clock and World time. There are three alarm clocks, each of them works independently. The World time is common, charmless and non-functional.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China


This item resembles the shortcut menu. Here you can add references to the often used applications.

Nokia 8800 China


The developers equipped this item with Calculator, Currency converter, Size converter (only weight and length converters are available) and Health. The latter option includes two programs: the first program calculates metabolic index according the date of birth, the second one is dedicated to women, it is a calendar of the menstrual cycle.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China


Here you find everything concerning the Internet. Unfortunately, we failed to connect to the Internet with the help of the tested phone, although all the settings were entered correctly.

Nokia 8800 China


The multimedia capabilities include camera, mediaplayer playing image, video and audio files and voice recorder. The selection is small, there is no even radio set. It is vexing, because the potential doesnt seem to be bad, but it is realized very poorly.
The lots of camera settings (exposure correction(-4/+4), autorelease, white balance (auto, daylight, tungsten, daylight lamp, cloudy, incandescent electric lamp), degree of compression, size (160x120, 176x220, 320x240, 640x480, 1280x1024 picsels), banding (50/60 Hz) and quality (low, middle, high) have no affect on the picture quality. Apart from the aforementioned settings the user can adjust release shutter sound, zooming sound, one among the dozens of effects, plaice to save the still and apply one of the10 frames to the image.

When shooting video, you can utilize white balance, exposure, and also fix the video quality, limit to time/size of the file, compression format (H.263/MPEG4). Here you are also able to switch on/turn out sound recording, apply all affects used in the photograph.

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

Nokia 8800 China

However, plethora of the settings has no effect on the photo/video quality. To make sure in my words you can look at the shoots and video clips below, that was made with the tested phone.

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What concerns the voice recorder, it has unlimited record time. But the quality of records leaves much room to be desired.

Performance and computer connectivity

Actually, we couldnt test it, as the phone didnt download JAVA-files. That is way emerges another question concerning the functionality of the device. How can we download new games and applications, if it doesnt read any JAVA-application? The problem is not in the firmware: the all-purpose software is likely to be installed in all Chinese counterfeit cellular phones.

As to me, I can define the speed of the Nokia 8800 China Edition interface work as the medium. During the work with the handset I didnt notice the glaring hangs up, but the device still lacks some extra milliseconds of the interface speed.

You notice one of the most interesting peculiarities of the phone software, when you connect it with the PC. When device is connected with the USB-port of the PC the display shows the peculiar menu. The latter allows bring the handset into the following regimes:

a)Mass Storage (it is similar to the common USB-flash memory card)
b)COM-port emulation
c) Web-camera (!)

The first two interfaces are of no interest, but the last is unique anduseless. Without program software (as far as you remember, there is no any software in the package) we cant see the picture from the built-in camera on the display of our PC. But wed like it! Anyway we have to mark this capability of the phone.

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the exchangeable disk when the phone is connected through the USB-port


The first conclusion I came to after a month of work with the device is that the phone is unusual. The manufacturer, in fact, was able to put the nice sweet with sour taste in the bright box.

Some capabilities of the phone impressed us very much: foremost, it is the memory card slot, the 2.5-mm headset jack, numerous ways to charge the battery, lots of settings and even the work as the web-camera, when connected with the PC. And all these things cost you only $95!

On the other hand we have shocking Russification, fragile display, carelessly made casing components, poor camera, small built-in memory, weak and alleged battery and so on and so forth.

Unfortunately, the cons tip the pros, even if you have in mind its small price.

The overall conclusion is the following: Chinese under-the-counter manufacturers dont get accustomed to sit idle. They know what, how and when they should do in order to get profit. And they also make aware of the price policy and the state-of-the-art industrial technologies, that as a result turn into the monsters like the Nokia 8800 China Edition. This phone, in fact, can be the prototype of the future budget handsets. Already now you can purchase a device priced at $100-130 with a memory card, 1.3-mpixels camera and etc. But though this tendency only now gathers pace, China has long ago been ready to produce the projects like these. All in all, we have much to think over.

P.S. How to distinguish the fake from the genuine phone

This table is for those who are going to purchase the Nokia 8800, but dont want to be hooked with the Chinese fake. Below we cite some characteristic features of the genuine Nokia 8800 and the prototype made beyond the Chinese Wall.

The differences between original and the Nokia 8800 China Edition

Characteristic Original Fake
Power button On the upper edge On the keypad
Joystick No. It is replaced with the five-way D-Pad. Yes. You can use it even with the closed phone
Battery cover The sign only Nokia, catch lock is below The sign Nokia and MPEG 4, catch lock is on the side
Charger slot Round, branded Rectangular, miniUSB
Battery Nokia BL-5X (600 /h), with hologram With Chinese signs, 650 /h
Additional speaker NO Yes, on the back cover
Location of the camera Sliding Built-in in the back cover
Headset jack With the additional contacts Common 2.5-jack
Wireless interfaces Yes, Bluetooth No
Memory 64 B, No expansion memory slot 600KB built-in memory + microSD expansion slot
The sign of the display when turning off NOKIA NOKLA
Menu Original Nokia menu Resembles Motorola menu

Of course the aforementioned key parameters are not the only. In spite of the similar design (though it seems alike only from afar), the phones differ, for example, like Finnish and Chinese languages.

Written by Pavel Moskvin,
Translated by Arina Urban.

Published 26 October 2007

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Regardless if you believe in God or not, read this message!!

Throughout time, we can see how we have been carefully conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?

In Revelation 13:16-18, we read,

"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles--Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."

Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!

These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!

This is where it comes together. It is incredible how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:

"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world—a microchip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick, convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society).

Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by tax dollars, took on this project and designed a microchip that is powered by a lithium battery, rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Brother Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one-and-a-half-million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the microchip inserted.

Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand (the two places the Bible says the mark will go) are not just the most convenient places, but are also the only viable places for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The microchip is approximately seven millimeters in length, .75 millimeters in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, criminal record, health history, and financial data can be stored on this chip.

Brother Sanders believes that this microchip, which he regretfully helped design, is the “mark” spoken about in Revelation 13:16–18. The original Greek word for “mark” is “charagma,” which means a “scratch or etching.” It is also interesting to note that the number 666 is actually a word in the original Greek. The word is “chi xi stigma,” with the last part, “stigma,” also meaning “to stick or prick.” Carl believes this is referring to a hypodermic needle when they poke into the skin to inject the microchip."

Mr. Sanders asked a doctor what would happen if the lithium contained within the RFID microchip leaked into the body. The doctor replied by saying a terrible sore would appear in that location. This is what the book of Revelation says:

"And the first (angel) went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image" (Revelation 16:2).

You can read more about it here--and to also understand the mystery behind the number 666: [url=]HTTPS://2RUTH.ORG[/url]

The third angel's warning in Revelation 14:9-11 states,

"Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, 'If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.'"

Great hope is in our midst, and is coming in a mighty way--the greatest revival for Jesus in the history of the world where we will see the most souls come to Him of all tribes, tongues, nations, and peoples (Rev. 7:9-10); for we have this promise in God's Word in the midst of these dark times:

"Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years (not literal--rather a spiritual label for time spent in eternity); and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while (when the Antichrist and false prophet will rise up and God will test the world)." (Revelation 20:1-3)

"The coming of the lawless one (the Antichrist) is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12)"

Who is Barack Obama, and why is he still involved in politics?

So what about his name? The meaning of someone's name can say a lot about a person. God throughout history has given names to people that have a specific meaning tied to their lives. How about the name Barack Obama? Let us take a look at what may be hiding beneath the surface.

Jesus says in Luke 10:18, "...I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."

The Hebrew Strongs word (H1299) for "lightning": "bârâq" (baw-rawk)

In Isaiah chapter 14, verse 14, we read about Lucifer (Satan) saying in his heart:

"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High."

In the verses in Isaiah that refer directly to Lucifer, several times it mentions him falling from the heights or the heavens. The Hebrew word for the heights or heavens used here is Hebrew Strongs 1116: "bamah"--Pronounced (bam-maw')

In Hebrew, the letter "Waw" or "Vav" is often transliterated as a "U" or "O," and it is primarily used as a conjunction to join concepts together. So to join in Hebrew poetry the concept of lightning (Baraq) and a high place like heaven or the heights of heaven (Bam-Maw), the letter "U" or "O" would be used. So, Baraq "O" Bam-Maw or Baraq "U" Bam-Maw in Hebrew poetry similar to the style written in Isaiah, would translate literally to "Lightning from the heights." The word "Satan" in Hebrew is a direct translation, therefore "Satan."

So when Jesus told His disciples in Luke 10:18 that He beheld Satan fall like lightning from heaven, if this were to be spoken by a Jewish Rabbi today influenced by the poetry in the book of Isaiah, he would say these words in Hebrew--the words of Jesus in Luke 10:18 as, and I saw Satan as Baraq O Bam-Maw.

Malie and Natasha are the names of Obama's daughters. If we write those names backward (the devil does things in reverse) we would get "ailam ahsatan". Now if we remove the letters that spell "Alah" (the false god of Islam being Allah), we would get "I am Satan". Mere coincidence? I don't think so!

Obama's campaign logo when he ran as President of the US in 2008 was a sun over the horizon in the west, with the landscape as the flag of the United States. In Islam, they have their own messiah that they are waiting for called the 12th Imam, or the Mahdi (the Antichrist of the Bible), and one prophecy concerning this man's appearance is the sun rising in the west.

"Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, 'Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.'" (Revelation 14:6-7)

Why have the words of Jesus in His Gospel accounts regarding His death, burial, and resurrection, been translated into over 3,000 languages, and nothing comes close (the Quran about 110 languages)? Because the same Spirit of God (YHVH) who created all people likewise transcends all people; therefore the power of His Word is not limited by people; while all other religions are man-made, therefore they tend to primarily stay within their own culture. The same God who speaks to all people through His creation of the heavens and earth that draws all people around the world likewise has sent His Word to the ends of the earth so that we may come to personally know Him to be saved in spirit and in truth through His Son Jesus Christ.

Jesus stands alone among the other religions that say to rightly weigh the scales of good and evil and to make sure you have done more good than bad in this life. Is this how we conduct ourselves justly in a court of law? Bearing the image of God, is this how we project this image into reality?

Our good works cannot save us. If we step before a judge, being guilty of a crime, the judge will not judge us by the good we have done, but rather by the crimes we have committed. If we as fallen humanity, created in God's image, pose this type of justice, how much more a perfect, righteous, and Holy God?

God has brought down His moral laws through the 10 commandments given to Moses at Mt. Siani. These laws were not given so we may be justified, but rather that we may see the need for a savior. They are the mirror of God's character of what He has written in our hearts, with our conscious bearing witness that we know that it is wrong to steal, lie, dishonor our parents, murder, and so forth.

We can try and follow the moral laws of the 10 commandments, but we will never catch up to them to be justified before a Holy God. That same word of the law given to Moses became flesh about 2,000 years ago in the body of Jesus Christ. He came to be our justification by fulfilling the law, living a sinless perfect life that only God could fulfill.

The gap between us and the law can never be reconciled by our own merit, but the arm of Jesus is stretched out by the grace and mercy of God. And if we are to grab on, through faith in Him, He will pull us up being the one to justify us. As in the court of law, if someone steps in and pays our fine, even though we are guilty, the judge can do what is legal and just and let us go free. That is what Jesus did almost 2,000 years ago on the cross. It was a legal transaction being fulfilled in the spiritual realm by the shedding of His blood with His last word's on the cross crying out, "It is finished!" (John 19:30).

For God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezekiel 18:23). This is why in Isaiah chapter 53, where it speaks of the coming Messiah and His soul being a sacrifice for our sins, why it says it pleased God to crush His only begotten Son.

This is because the wrath that we deserve was justified by being poured out upon His Son. If that wrath was poured out on us, we would all perish to hell forever. God created a way of escape by pouring it out on His Son whose soul could not be left in Hades but was raised and seated at the right hand of God in power.

So now when we put on the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 13:14), where God no longer sees the person who deserves His wrath, but rather the glorious image of His perfect Son dwelling in us, justifying us as if we received the wrath we deserve, making a way of escape from the curse of death; now being conformed into the image of the heavenly man walking in a new nature, and no longer in the image of the fallen man Adam.

Now what we must do is repent and put our trust and faith in the savior, confessing and forsaking our sins, and to receive His Holy Spirit that we may be born again (for Jesus says we must be born again to see and enter the Kingdom of God in John chapter 3). This is not just head knowledge of believing in Jesus, but rather receiving His words, taking them to heart, so that we may truly be transformed into the image of God. Where we no longer live to practice sin, but rather turn from our sins and practice righteousness through faith in Him in obedience to His Word by reading the Bible.

Our works cannot save us, but they can condemn us; it is not that we earn our way into everlasting life, but that we obey our Lord Jesus Christ:

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“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ (Matthew 7:21-23)

"And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him." (Hebrews 5:9)

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Then He who sat on the throne said, 'Behold, I make all things new.' And He said to me, 'Write, for these words are true and faithful.'

And He said to me, 'It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.'" (Revelation 21:1-8)

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